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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    I guess its just the continuing story of life. It used to be kids dying from alcohol (directly or indirectly) and now its drugs.

    Honestly there is no simple solution. It is probably worse here because there is limited things to do.

    I mean the options are really this

    Go to a ballgame
    Go to a movie
    Go bowling
    Go walmart
    Go eat

    That's it effectively.

    Now I know good kids who never did a thing but got tired of the same old, same old. Or the nothing. If you put a good kid out there, with nothing to do, who doesn't want to do anything but the options are sit at home, or go to a friends house where there are girls/guys, what are they going to do. Most don't go and do anything/everything the first time but they go a time or two and do nothing but sit around and talk. The next time, maybe they have a beer because everybody else there is drinking so what does it hurt. They have a good time so next time they drink more. They have a bad time and someone says well no wonder beer sucks, try this booze. Eventually someone they like or think is cool is doing something, and they think well it doesn't hurt them, so whats it hurt me, besides they have been over here doing whatever for months and never hurt them. Of course odds are nothing happens the first time so the next time they don't think about it. On it goes.

    I honestly can speak for myself, that back when I used to could go sit out in Clintwood, hang out with friends, maybe see some people cruising around (girls from other towns, who are we kidding), I could have a great time just doing that. Didn't need anything to help me have a good time. Once it got to the point that they started running off people parking or cruisers, as a teen or young adult you had to find something to do, and especially a way to meet some of the other sex. I went several times and never touched anything. After awhile, being one of the good people, I'd get bored or get tired of being the one who didn't touch anything, so yes, I eventually gave into drinking some. Thankfully with seeing the effects of drugs to some family, I didn't give into that, but its really a slippery slope that most can't stop.

    My honest opinion. I know that kids can be messy and you'll always have some bad eggs (like we talk about in relation to everything else) who end up ruining things for everybody, but in sticking it to the bad eggs, you stick it to the good ones as well.

    Yeah you have cruisers, you are going to have some kids who are out there speeding, hanging out of cars, playing music to loud, etc. You have people parking in lots, you're going to have litter and yes, probably a few who sit there and drink or whatever, but you have to find some middle ground.

    I used to park in a lot in Clintwood and a town cop would pull in and talk to us. Guess what, we didn't care, we were sitting there, watching people and I guess being watched. We was talking one time about someone they had pulled over a few days earlier, and the cop made a good point. He said he was suspicious that they had been drinking but as long as they sat still in the lot, they wasn't out on the road, and running people off the road or wrecking. As he said, kids are going to find a place to go, at least there, he could keep an eye on them. Once they were out of town though, with all the backroads and curves we have, it was just an invite for an accident.

    If this area really wants to slow down drugs, give kids some options. Don't treat them like trash and try to eliminate options. Guess what, its not going to get fixed over night. It didn't go to hell overnight either. It's just that a lot of adults who used to sit out at all the little drive-ins or shops that they used to meet their wives or some of their best friends have forgotten what they did growing up.

    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    The kid that passed away was a good friend of mine. I have never known of him using drugs, except drinking occasionally. He was an all around good kid and never caused harm. He was active in sport and I never thought I'd see him gone. The first time using drugs was his last. People need to think about the consequences of using drugs, especially pills. I'm not saying I'm inncocent by far, but losing a buddy of mine sure has opened my eyes along with others. People, espcally kids, need to think about their actions. I honestly think that there should be a program in schools showing the side effects of specific drugs and the harm that they can do to someone instead of being taught that drugs are "bad" without showing what harm that a certain and specific drug can do. Kids need to be more educated. The drug problem in our area will never go away no matter how many busts go down. As many have said, we need more to do around here. The same stuff gets old. We use to cuise Wal-Mart parking lot until the cops started writing tickets and such. Then the hanging out moved to the mountains where many got ran off or charged with trespassing for kids fourwheeling and having a good time. After all of that was taken away, what's left for us to do? I know that's no excuse, but think about it?

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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    Kids do drugs because they are surrounded by them constantly. It doesn't matter where you live. It just seems that, in areas like SWVA, where there is little to nothing to do, drugs are the main option. This will never change. And it keeps getting harder and harder to raise kids in a society like we have today.

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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    Plenty of things for kids to do. Want to save a kid's life? Buy them a gun or fishing rod and take them fishing and hunting.
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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    Kids are now getting the mentality that drugs are harmless. A kid just DIED from it. Do they think it's harmless now?

    No, it's not our lives, it's their's. And it's our life to tell them it's wrong and possibly and hopefully save a life.
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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    I am glad I was not exposed to most of the drugs that kids are exposed too today when I was in school. The worst things we did when I was in school was drink and smoke dope, none of this cocaine, prescription drugs, and all that other crap that they are exposed too. I know if I was exposed to this stuff in school and peer pressure and all I am sure I would have been tempted to do them..... IMO Parents need to be more aware of what their kids are doing, that is where most of the problems are.
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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    They were there man, I saw alot of Coke and pills. Never say any oxy's or anything that extreme but the other stuff was there. The majority of those people are dead or in prison now though so I guess they are pretty much a prime example of why not to get into that junk.

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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    I know they were there, just not as prominant as they are today. You had to really search for them if you wanted them not just show up on any street corner and there they are like Tylenol.
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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

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    I honestly think that there should be a program in schools showing the side effects of specific drugs and the harm that they can do to someone instead of being taught that drugs are "bad" without showing what harm that a certain and specific drug can do.

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    We had the DARE program growing up. They came to school every Wednesday. Drug eduction was specific, we were taught what they looked like, smelled like, what category they were in, what they did to a person, etc.
    And look at all the dopeheads that came out of my generation. It's apparently "cooler" to listen to a friend than a cop that comes to you weekly for years. I just dont understand how people can forget all we were taught those years. Did they just not believe what we were taught?
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    Re: Kids, Drugs, Parents and Death.

    I had that DARE program from like first to 6th grade. The cop kept mentioning something every session, "Don't touch stuff that isn't safe to put in your mouth".

    Some people say that the cops are being jerks and that they don't have to listen to them. I'm kind of sick of the anarachy fad that seems to be going around. It's always "me" who is the only thing important in this world.

    Yeah, some cops are jerks, but when it comes to drugs and such, how do you want them to react? Give you a pat on the back when you do drugs and say "good job buddy"?

    I've talked to some people who were arrested and say they still do drugs. Maybe the punishment from the law wasn't enough?

    I'm no cop. I don't plan to be a cop, but to those cops who are strict when it comes to issues such as this, congratulations.

    If I have to use harmful substances to be cool then I think I'd much rather be part of the "uncool" community. People do it to be cool.
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